Comments on: Skulls, Gems, and Raw Vegan Cakes https://zentastic.me/blog/2011/11/15/skulls-gems-and-raw-vegan-cakes/ I can scarcely move or draw my breath // Let me, let me freeze again to death Wed, 06 Jan 2016 03:58:04 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: Shannon https://zentastic.me/blog/2011/11/15/skulls-gems-and-raw-vegan-cakes/comment-page-1/#comment-16946 Shannon Sat, 19 Nov 2011 01:04:00 +0000 https://zentastic.me/blog/?p=11544#comment-16946 Dresden — I’ll email you this as well but I wanted to recommend a book to you — “POP SCULPTURE” by TIM BRUCKNER, ZACH DAT, and RUBEN PROCOPIO. It covers carving in a whole bunch of materials as well as casting and many other interesting things that are relevant to this type of sculpting.

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By: dresden https://zentastic.me/blog/2011/11/15/skulls-gems-and-raw-vegan-cakes/comment-page-1/#comment-16933 dresden Wed, 16 Nov 2011 23:33:53 +0000 https://zentastic.me/blog/?p=11544#comment-16933 Wow man, thank you very much. That’ll be a huge help. I have been watching a lot of the videos at work so I have a pretty good idea how to do it. The problem with local places is that no one sells silicon (I need to check a few others, but I’m 0 for 3 now), and the only resin they have is clear resin, which is cool, but without a mold, eh, doesn’t help. I appreciate the time you put in to your reply. BTW I’m across the pond from you in Rochester. :)

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By: Shannon https://zentastic.me/blog/2011/11/15/skulls-gems-and-raw-vegan-cakes/comment-page-1/#comment-16930 Shannon Wed, 16 Nov 2011 20:35:47 +0000 https://zentastic.me/blog/?p=11544#comment-16930 …and if I didn’t already mention it, for all of these techniques there are TONS of videos on youtube from people much more experienced than me giving out free tutorials. If you learn by seeing, this is another thing worth doing. The smooth-on website (link in my previous comment) also has superb tutorials on using all of their products.

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By: Shannon https://zentastic.me/blog/2011/11/15/skulls-gems-and-raw-vegan-cakes/comment-page-1/#comment-16929 Shannon Wed, 16 Nov 2011 20:34:00 +0000 https://zentastic.me/blog/?p=11544#comment-16929 Dresden –

Early on I used a few online suppliers, but lately I’ve been buying locally at “Sculpture Supply Canada” who also have a website at https://www.sculpturesupply.com/ and do mailorder. I don’t remember where you are located but there’s a very good chance that you can find a local supplier. Sometimes even arts and craft places stock this stuff and if not, could certainly order it for you.

I will add that almost all of the plastics and silicones that I have used are products of https://www.smooth-on.com/ who I think will also do mailorder direct if you don’t find any other options.

For starters I’ve been really happy with the putty silicones, which is fast and easy to use and pretty “idiot proof” (so it was great before I understood the processes). Now I mostly use Dragon Skin silicone, but that works best in a vacuum chamber, which is going to cost you $500 – $1000 new. You can do it without a chamber but you’ll make more mistakes and won’t get as good detail most of the time.

BTW, the “basic craft kits” might actually be an economical way to get your feet wet and try the different materials in low quantities.

As to sculpting the masters, I’ve done just about everything but most of the time I work in epoxy clay (ie. products like “Fixit” and “Apoxie Clay”) which is a two part clay that cures chemically rather than via heat. Sculpy and Fimo (which is heat cure, in a home oven) also works fine but I was never really able to get good results from it personally. With the epoxy clays I found that you could both get good results from sculpting itself, and from subsequent carving after the fact with both hand tools (even a knife) and my Dremel. And you can also bulk it up with multiple layers, which doesn’t seem to work as well with sculpy/fimp (it falls apart in my experience, and doesn’t handle multiple cure cycles that well). If you like working with a Dremel, invest in a flex shaft (about $50)… It’s worth every cent.

If you like carving another option is wax. Some people swear by it. Another option is “3d collage”. That is, taking found objects and modifying them. If you remember some of the rings that I made out of toys, that’s how I did those. You can also take a cast of an object and then modify it. That’s how I did some of my “zombified” versions of Nefarious’s Littlest Pet Shop characters — I made a copy in hard plastic resin, which I then carved and modified with clay, and then took a second mold from my modified version.

All in all there are tons of different methods to create your master and all of them have pros and cons… ultimately it all comes down to what you find most comfortable personally.

Finally, I’ll add that with those silicone molds you can also use them for casting soap (incredibly easy to do) and wax candles, as well as food (candies, jelly, cakes, whatever) to say nothing of lower temperature metals like pewter (although for pewter and perhaps other metals you have to use “platinum cure silicone” because the “tin cure silicone” off-gasses when you pour metal into it and you end up with bubbles in the surface).

Whew, that was a lot of typing. All in all a lot of these questions will just answer themselves once you start playing with it. If you can afford to spend a couple hundred dollars to get some different clays, some plastic resins, and some silicone for the molds, you will have a lot of fun and learn a lot.

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By: Shannon https://zentastic.me/blog/2011/11/15/skulls-gems-and-raw-vegan-cakes/comment-page-1/#comment-16928 Shannon Wed, 16 Nov 2011 20:19:15 +0000 https://zentastic.me/blog/?p=11544#comment-16928 Zandelion – They won’t be expensive, don’t worry… I wouldn’t feel right charging a premium on anything that I haven’t either put in serious time on or made primary artistic contributions to. Also I’m gonna run a MEGA sale (for Zentastic readers only) shortly. So don’t buy anything until you see a post about that.

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By: Zandelion https://zentastic.me/blog/2011/11/15/skulls-gems-and-raw-vegan-cakes/comment-page-1/#comment-16927 Zandelion Wed, 16 Nov 2011 19:14:48 +0000 https://zentastic.me/blog/?p=11544#comment-16927 I love the rat skulls and I may splurge on one. You should create tons of them and make them very affordable! (Wishful thinking).

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By: dresden https://zentastic.me/blog/2011/11/15/skulls-gems-and-raw-vegan-cakes/comment-page-1/#comment-16926 dresden Wed, 16 Nov 2011 15:08:50 +0000 https://zentastic.me/blog/?p=11544#comment-16926 Hey Shannon, more questions for you. Do you have a good online source for resin and silicon? There’s no place local to me that sells anything other than basic craft kits. Also, how do you sculpt your stuff? Do you do it in clay, then cast? Do you use a harder substance and remove material that way? I’ve never done much sculpting, so I’m curious on the techniques you use, since you get some really great results. How long do your molds hold up for? I think that’s all for now. Again, thanks for your help so far.

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