Comments on: Converting nightmares into dreams https://zentastic.me/blog/2011/01/21/converting-nightmares-into-dreams/ I can scarcely move or draw my breath // Let me, let me freeze again to death Wed, 06 Jan 2016 03:58:04 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: Em Bem https://zentastic.me/blog/2011/01/21/converting-nightmares-into-dreams/comment-page-1/#comment-14708 Em Bem Mon, 24 Jan 2011 02:31:38 +0000 https://zentastic.me/blog/?p=10126#comment-14708 Hi Shannon. I have been reading your articles and I am in agreement with you, however, I haven’t stopped thinking about this shit for weeks. (Unbelievably obsessing about and researching this stuff non stop for weeks) You speak of chemicals in the water system, there has been for years now, if you look on the effects of fluoride, it will tell you that it actually does more harm than good, for 1 thing, it doesn’t stop tooth decay, it ruins the enamel on your teeth, thus making your dental health worse, it promotes ‘bovine’ characteristics so the chemicals in water is nothing new. The government and other people on the other hand have been demanding that it be put in water supplies for years.. War is definitely destruction, strife and sadistic to us.. To the people that pocket the money from the profit made from it is a huge money making scam. Did you know that in ww2 there was a profit of $200,000,000, they have even got us convinced that the people from Afghan and Iraq have ‘weapons of mass destruction’ or ‘fighting for dimocracy’ or whatever shite they happen to be making up these days, it’s got nothing to do with ‘the weapons, democracy etc’, it’s about the poppy fields in Afghanistan and the oil in Iraq, they’re worth a lot of money and money equals power!! The people from these countries are innocent in all of this. First of all, they can’t afford it, second of all, why would they waste their time bombing a place that will provide them with day to day living necessities and will readily accept them in to their lives. There’s no suicide bombers, it’s all sent out by the ‘officials’ to create a diversion and a distraction and to twist peoples minds and turn them against each other. Anyhoo, I could go on all night about this (literally) and it would probably drive you insane, (like I have felt a lot lately) but people need to do the research and see what they find out for themselves!! Have fun guys!! :-)

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By: Roy https://zentastic.me/blog/2011/01/21/converting-nightmares-into-dreams/comment-page-1/#comment-14700 Roy Sun, 23 Jan 2011 13:28:01 +0000 https://zentastic.me/blog/?p=10126#comment-14700 Oh do I like this blogpost!
Oh do I fully agree with the things said in it!

And as a final annoying pointer…

Oh am I lucky, living in Finland, where education is free ;)

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By: starbadger https://zentastic.me/blog/2011/01/21/converting-nightmares-into-dreams/comment-page-1/#comment-14698 starbadger Sun, 23 Jan 2011 08:32:46 +0000 https://zentastic.me/blog/?p=10126#comment-14698 yeah

we went to the moon

i didn’t

100% certain

not never nothing gets 100%
or rather in a quantum computer
the speed of thought
exceeds the speed of light

i think Hawking is wrong
or was 40 years ago
now rumour has it he’s not so sure – maybe
the info is in the event horizon – i understand somedays
he is in residence

you should meet him
i’m sure it would be as easy
as a drive and a walk
and an open door and

hello world

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By: Shannon https://zentastic.me/blog/2011/01/21/converting-nightmares-into-dreams/comment-page-1/#comment-14693 Shannon Sun, 23 Jan 2011 02:25:02 +0000 https://zentastic.me/blog/?p=10126#comment-14693 Yes I am 100% certain we went to the moon. I don’t find it odd that we stopped once the political drive was gone.

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By: starbadger https://zentastic.me/blog/2011/01/21/converting-nightmares-into-dreams/comment-page-1/#comment-14688 starbadger Sat, 22 Jan 2011 19:49:35 +0000 https://zentastic.me/blog/?p=10126#comment-14688 Shannon – I wish I wish
but that does not make it so

are you certain we went to the moon – don’t you find it odd we went so far so fast and stopped

and take a cautionary from E.D.
as soon as we generalize or opinionize we give others cause to not listen to us

you of all people more home-schooled and self-schooled know better – tell people your truths – how did you learn programming – and what about games – as DIYER says – who would Jesus kill –

Of course I don’t know and neither do you and by the by that’s the essence of the Hawking Paradox

is info lost in the event horizon or is it in the event horizon

useful error

that’s as good as our truths get
but you know that

nicht wahr

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By: starbadger https://zentastic.me/blog/2011/01/21/converting-nightmares-into-dreams/comment-page-1/#comment-14687 starbadger Sat, 22 Jan 2011 19:29:44 +0000 https://zentastic.me/blog/?p=10126#comment-14687 Good pt Maarten

If we go to Mars asap it
will be courtesy the complex
of power most in this thread decry.

Maybe better we wait for buying a ticket to go.

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By: Shannon https://zentastic.me/blog/2011/01/21/converting-nightmares-into-dreams/comment-page-1/#comment-14686 Shannon Sat, 22 Jan 2011 17:25:19 +0000 https://zentastic.me/blog/?p=10126#comment-14686 E.D. I’m guessing that you’re a sports fan that found my blog on random search rather than a regular reader, so I apologize if I’ve thus mischaracterized where you’re coming from.

Anyway, it doesn’t matter to objective reality where $5 billion is coming from in terms of level of government. Point is that it’s getting cut and some really unpleasant things result.

As to the $60 million to the stadium, in a crumbling economy that has a pathetic education system (even if you are satisfied with it), it seems to me that some extravagant stadium that is used by a small percentage of the public and SERIOUSLY enriches an even smaller percentage, that it would make a lot more sense to spend money on making sure that the next generation has the best and most opportunity for success.

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By: Carmen https://zentastic.me/blog/2011/01/21/converting-nightmares-into-dreams/comment-page-1/#comment-14684 Carmen Sat, 22 Jan 2011 16:59:33 +0000 https://zentastic.me/blog/?p=10126#comment-14684 Yes I agree 100% the US military doesn’t need to exist. There was a pretty interesting discussion here, not excatly on topic but close I believe.

https://www.sustainableprosperity.ca/debate

going to be aired on CBC about massive change needed and the lack of global political will do do anything of the sort until major crises occur. Or at least that is the implication.

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By: Linda https://zentastic.me/blog/2011/01/21/converting-nightmares-into-dreams/comment-page-1/#comment-14682 Linda Sat, 22 Jan 2011 14:55:16 +0000 https://zentastic.me/blog/?p=10126#comment-14682 “Or is the political process so beholden to the will of the wealthy that the actual will of the people is irrelevant?”

Yep, it is! The Repug rights would like nothing better than to see what used to be the middle class in our country looking for our next meal in garbage dumps. You know, that’s pro’bly wrong, they don’t give a shit where we get a last meal or if we’re alive…I’m seriously thinking of moving out of the country. I think we should be up in arms, but there’s not too many people willing to take to the streets. I have felt embarrassed for my country ever since they elected Ronald Raygun as president…

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By: Maarten https://zentastic.me/blog/2011/01/21/converting-nightmares-into-dreams/comment-page-1/#comment-14679 Maarten Sat, 22 Jan 2011 12:56:49 +0000 https://zentastic.me/blog/?p=10126#comment-14679 it may be cruel to say but i think if mankind still thinks that selfdestruction aka war is more important then exploration and discovery we deserve to stay on one planet.

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By: E.D. https://zentastic.me/blog/2011/01/21/converting-nightmares-into-dreams/comment-page-1/#comment-14676 E.D. Sat, 22 Jan 2011 06:01:11 +0000 https://zentastic.me/blog/?p=10126#comment-14676 HAD to comment on the Texas/football stadium reference…

It’s one stadium, not plural. Paid for by city dollars. The citizens of Allen VOTED FOR IT. We have one of the best school districts in the state, if not the country, and the vast majority of us agree that since everything else in the schools is well-funded, it’s time we replaced the stadium we outgrew 15 years ago! And it’ll be used for MANY other sports also, but that doesn’t seem to be mentioned anywhere…

The $5B you mentioned is state money, not local (city) dollars. And it’s probably pretty specific, too, if they’re considering it. (Too late to check tonight, since you didn’t link to your source, but I’ll look around tomorrow.)

I hope that clarifies it some for you!

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By: Shannon https://zentastic.me/blog/2011/01/21/converting-nightmares-into-dreams/comment-page-1/#comment-14675 Shannon Sat, 22 Jan 2011 05:29:29 +0000 https://zentastic.me/blog/?p=10126#comment-14675 Oh, and also read Eisenhower’s leaving the presidency speech in which he warns of the risks of the Military Industrial Complex (and coins the term I think). Scary stuff from 1960.

There’s a great documentary on that subject whose name is currently escaping me but if I think of it I will make one more post and urge you to seek it out. But yeah, that speech was eerie. Hell, I’ll quote it here:

“We have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions. Added to this, three and a half million men and women are directly engaged in the defense establishment. We annually spend on military security more than the net income of all United States corporations. This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence — economic, political, even spiritual — is felt in every city, every State house, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society.”

“In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the militaryindustrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist. We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.”

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By: Shannon https://zentastic.me/blog/2011/01/21/converting-nightmares-into-dreams/comment-page-1/#comment-14674 Shannon Sat, 22 Jan 2011 05:24:21 +0000 https://zentastic.me/blog/?p=10126#comment-14674 Also it’s important to note that it’s really hard to say which foreign dictator is worth deposing. I mean, it’s dubious whether overthrowing Sadam and the Taliban is working out so well — and anyway, the only reason that we “needed” to overthrow them in the first place is because of having used them to overthrow someone else before. Our own demons.

I really think that the age of Hilters and Alexander the Greats and Attila the Huns and so on is a thing of the past anyway. And again, even if I’m wrong, it’s just not an issue in America because it’s not like some Chinese neoHitler is going to fly an invasion force into the US mainland to conquer… what… it’s customer base? I mean, war is a farce.

A big giant THE EMPEROR WEARS NO CLOTHES farce. In the immortal words of Smedley Butler, “WAR IS A RACKET”. And wow, if you haven’t read that in a while, do so: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Is_a_Racket

As true now as it was when he wrote it in the thirties.

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By: Shannon https://zentastic.me/blog/2011/01/21/converting-nightmares-into-dreams/comment-page-1/#comment-14673 Shannon Sat, 22 Jan 2011 05:00:31 +0000 https://zentastic.me/blog/?p=10126#comment-14673 Well, first of all, it’s a myth that the US saved the world in WWII. Second of all, given that the USA effectively became the Fourth Reich, even installing much of the Nazi staff in positions of power, it’s a dubious argument at best. Nazi politics and power brokers are alive and well in international politics, and Germany itself is more powerful than ever. So did America really “kick ass” or did it actually form an alliance and feign ass kicking in order to antagonize the Russians? It’s not so clean cut.

Also the so-called Hitlers of the world exist because of large militaries.

More relevantly, no Hitler-powered army has the capability of invading the US or Canada. It’s a physical impossibility. We’re an unconquerable continental monolith. Could an airforce come an nuke us? Sure, but to what end? The world is not run by madmen — and Hitler was no madman bent on world destruction. He wanted to expand German borders to what made sense to many Germans, and apply a certain set of cultural and political ideals inside his borders. He did not want to go around randomly nuking other continents, Silvervogel project notwithstanding.

I’m a non-interventionalist. I don’t think we have the duty to save or police the world. We are better off leading by example. Don’t make the world want to fight you because they’re afraid of you. Make the world love you because you are the future.

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By: Timothy https://zentastic.me/blog/2011/01/21/converting-nightmares-into-dreams/comment-page-1/#comment-14669 Timothy Fri, 21 Jan 2011 23:10:56 +0000 https://zentastic.me/blog/?p=10126#comment-14669 *had the US

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By: Timothy https://zentastic.me/blog/2011/01/21/converting-nightmares-into-dreams/comment-page-1/#comment-14668 Timothy Fri, 21 Jan 2011 23:10:32 +0000 https://zentastic.me/blog/?p=10126#comment-14668 I think a well-developed country needs a military (of some sort) to go after the Hitlers of the world whenever they pop up. As much as I loathe war (and I do), we’d be living in a very different world has the US and others not kicked some Nazi ass in WW2. Sometimes you need to fight.

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By: Shannon https://zentastic.me/blog/2011/01/21/converting-nightmares-into-dreams/comment-page-1/#comment-14667 Shannon Fri, 21 Jan 2011 22:37:35 +0000 https://zentastic.me/blog/?p=10126#comment-14667 Yikes, what’s that, a blog post in a comment? Sorry…

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By: Shannon https://zentastic.me/blog/2011/01/21/converting-nightmares-into-dreams/comment-page-1/#comment-14666 Shannon Fri, 21 Jan 2011 22:37:04 +0000 https://zentastic.me/blog/?p=10126#comment-14666 I’ll bite — why would it not be wise? Why does America NEED its military? Surely you don’t think America’s shores are at risk of invasion and it’s people of being conquered?

I think that the only reason that there’s a gut instinct to say “no” is that it’s so ingrained as the status quo that America has serious military might.

I’m not talking about scrapping over night — probably a 15 year phase out is realistic. Also it makes sense to keep a small elite force to do things like hostage retrieval, but this could be under the mandate of the CIA and is more akin to international policing than traditional military.

Also, much of the techology development that agencies like DARPA do — and these are not to be scoffed at — would be handled by NASA and so on. So certain non-military things that the military currently do would actually be expanded under my plan, rather than cut.

I just would completely scrap the idea of throwing money at war or the potential of war. War is something humanity is ready to leave behind us in my opinion. And of course war and terrorism are very different things, and if we’ve learned anything in the last years of Iraq/Afghanistan, it’s that a traditional military makes one hell of a mess when fighting “terrorism” and ends up making the problem worse. And another way of saying “makes the problem worse” is “should never have done it”.

I feel pretty secure in the logic of my proposal.

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By: Timothy https://zentastic.me/blog/2011/01/21/converting-nightmares-into-dreams/comment-page-1/#comment-14665 Timothy Fri, 21 Jan 2011 21:57:11 +0000 https://zentastic.me/blog/?p=10126#comment-14665 Shannon, while I don’t think it’d be wise to disintegrate the military entirely, I do agree it’s a shame that “1st World” countries don’t put more money into the colonization of Mars, and less money into military. There are echoes of Bill Hicks’ “Revelations” epilogue in that sentiment.

It’d be a huge step forward for humanity, and would push us to innovate our technology for purposes other than creating the next cool palm-sized gadget.

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