Comments on: Will 2012 really be the “end”? https://zentastic.me/blog/2009/04/01/will-2012-really-be-the-end/ I can scarcely move or draw my breath // Let me, let me freeze again to death Wed, 06 Jan 2016 03:58:04 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: divisionbyzer0 https://zentastic.me/blog/2009/04/01/will-2012-really-be-the-end/comment-page-1/#comment-6451 divisionbyzer0 Thu, 30 Apr 2009 07:20:25 +0000 https://zentastic.me/blog/?p=6496#comment-6451 And for the record the world has been ending since human beings have been talking and writing.

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By: divisionbyzer0 https://zentastic.me/blog/2009/04/01/will-2012-really-be-the-end/comment-page-1/#comment-6450 divisionbyzer0 Thu, 30 Apr 2009 07:19:22 +0000 https://zentastic.me/blog/?p=6496#comment-6450 Hey maybe if we let neoliberals further deregulate the energy sector, the “free market” will come up with solutions for this one. *rolls eyes*

To commenter number 6– the idea that Humans act like animals is a diservice to most of the animal kingdom is it not? And why not just ditch this dichotomous bullshit that anyone who has come to terms with darwinism should have ditched a long time ago. Humans are a form of animal — humanity / animality is a false dichotomy. See the writings of cultural anthropologist tim ingold for the most thorough punking down of this fucktarded notion of separate natures.

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By: wintermute https://zentastic.me/blog/2009/04/01/will-2012-really-be-the-end/comment-page-1/#comment-6155 wintermute Sun, 05 Apr 2009 04:39:46 +0000 https://zentastic.me/blog/?p=6496#comment-6155 I think the change is already occurring… a shift from industrial to post-industrial mode of production…

I think the Mayans are hopeing that this Baktun is going to be better than the last one for them.

The world does not end. There is only one stela suggesting that 2012 is the end, and many more with dates in the far future on them.

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By: jason https://zentastic.me/blog/2009/04/01/will-2012-really-be-the-end/comment-page-1/#comment-6142 jason Sat, 04 Apr 2009 10:49:32 +0000 https://zentastic.me/blog/?p=6496#comment-6142 This is something I’ve spent many hours debating. Eschatology is fascinating, there is so much we can only speculate on.
One of my favourite podcasts is the intelligent and well considered C-realm podcast. It covers the subject from so many angles with some great thinkers as guests.

https://c-realmpodcast.podomatic.com/

(p.s. I’m nothing to do with this podcast, please don’t think I’m spamming, it’s recommendation)

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By: peteD3 https://zentastic.me/blog/2009/04/01/will-2012-really-be-the-end/comment-page-1/#comment-6134 peteD3 Fri, 03 Apr 2009 17:49:21 +0000 https://zentastic.me/blog/?p=6496#comment-6134 there is something attractive about the idea of no tech, no electricity. but it only works if people still have enough food and the ‘strong’ dont just stand raping and pillaging everything. also, its seems likely that there will be folks that just start burning coal, tires, plastic etc to keep warm and humanity ends up doing more damage then before.
i think if something like this happended, we could all survive and have plenty to eat and other necessities….but the minority (with the guns, etc) will freak out, try to control everything they can and destroy us all.
humans suck.

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By: Barf https://zentastic.me/blog/2009/04/01/will-2012-really-be-the-end/comment-page-1/#comment-6119 Barf Fri, 03 Apr 2009 03:57:22 +0000 https://zentastic.me/blog/?p=6496#comment-6119 David Tibet agrees.

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By: Neill https://zentastic.me/blog/2009/04/01/will-2012-really-be-the-end/comment-page-1/#comment-6118 Neill Fri, 03 Apr 2009 02:33:18 +0000 https://zentastic.me/blog/?p=6496#comment-6118 I was in guatemala back in November, and on a tour of a town, the guide made a big point of saying that the calendar just starts over. If anything does happen, it will be pure coincedence.

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By: BusyBee https://zentastic.me/blog/2009/04/01/will-2012-really-be-the-end/comment-page-1/#comment-6117 BusyBee Fri, 03 Apr 2009 01:26:15 +0000 https://zentastic.me/blog/?p=6496#comment-6117 Ever since I can remember, I have always dreamt and thought about a world that is forced to go back to basics. I long for that, as difficult and sad it would be to loose some of those people I love, I hope I am one of the few to survive. As hypocritical as it is (i`m using technology to type this damn message) I hate all the gadgets and doo-hickeys we have now, I want an excuse to ignore `work`, throw electronics out the window and build a homestead, basic survival is the best excuse ever! Our world is far too fast paced, we need something to slow us down a bit.

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By: Phil Moore https://zentastic.me/blog/2009/04/01/will-2012-really-be-the-end/comment-page-1/#comment-6116 Phil Moore Fri, 03 Apr 2009 00:51:02 +0000 https://zentastic.me/blog/?p=6496#comment-6116 The one thing that makes these apocoliptic evens odd to me is: If only 10% of the population survives worldwide, there is still 10% that has knowledge from jobs, school, experiences. My mother is a botanist, my father a physics major. Out of this 10% there is a collective knowledge; one that in small pockets could have the ability to rebuild very quickly. This does not throw us back to the stone age per-se but creates a time where invention and nostalgia become the norm again. Oddly enough, every 500 years there is some sort of “revolution” One would assume, on the theory of “genetic memory” that people over the past few million (billion?) years have simply overcame the pitfall of a 500 year cycle because some of the population survived. Oddly enough, I’m drunk, and typing this on an htc cellphone. This is something I will remember, and pass on. Genetically or by word of mouth when the fateful day comes. I also drive an ancient military jeep with “analog” ignition. My jeep will start will yours after an emp?

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By: dresden https://zentastic.me/blog/2009/04/01/will-2012-really-be-the-end/comment-page-1/#comment-6115 dresden Thu, 02 Apr 2009 21:32:14 +0000 https://zentastic.me/blog/?p=6496#comment-6115 I’ve always theorized that they just never got around to finishing the calendar.

“Well, we got plenty of time, we’ll do it NEXT year.”

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By: janosch https://zentastic.me/blog/2009/04/01/will-2012-really-be-the-end/comment-page-1/#comment-6114 janosch Thu, 02 Apr 2009 18:33:36 +0000 https://zentastic.me/blog/?p=6496#comment-6114 would it be so bad knocked back into the stone-age?
i think it would be nice. when this happen, we get another chance.

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By: peteD3 https://zentastic.me/blog/2009/04/01/will-2012-really-be-the-end/comment-page-1/#comment-6113 peteD3 Thu, 02 Apr 2009 18:33:26 +0000 https://zentastic.me/blog/?p=6496#comment-6113 some people will be loving it, majority…not so much.

humanity has lost is chance to rise above acting like animals or worse then animals) anyways, so maybe it time to wipe us out before we do any more damage to the earth.

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By: DreadLetterDay https://zentastic.me/blog/2009/04/01/will-2012-really-be-the-end/comment-page-1/#comment-6112 DreadLetterDay Thu, 02 Apr 2009 12:50:23 +0000 https://zentastic.me/blog/?p=6496#comment-6112 I think the total destruction of our global means of barter and exchange is slightly more pressing.

The whole 2012 Maya thing… isn’t this really about the return to balance of ‘the eagle and the falcon’? it’s not falcon, it’s something else… stupid memory… but it’s based on the return to harmony of the forces of the intellect and the emotions, something like that.

*shrugs*

And anyway… This whole ‘period of extreme change’ meme could have been applied to any period of time going back to the invention of agriculture.

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By: rmx256 https://zentastic.me/blog/2009/04/01/will-2012-really-be-the-end/comment-page-1/#comment-6111 rmx256 Thu, 02 Apr 2009 12:04:31 +0000 https://zentastic.me/blog/?p=6496#comment-6111 Along a similar vein, I became convinced back in the late 90′s that the world, in one way or another, was soon to change to a degree enough that we might as well say that it has ended. So my wife and I moved to the country and started all of that preparedness stuff. Subsequently I came to the opinion that Armageddon would likely come while we were on vacation and so we quietly dropped the idea.

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By: Andrew https://zentastic.me/blog/2009/04/01/will-2012-really-be-the-end/comment-page-1/#comment-6109 Andrew Thu, 02 Apr 2009 08:14:47 +0000 https://zentastic.me/blog/?p=6496#comment-6109 https://video.google.co.uk/videosearch?q=ian+x+lungold&hl=en&emb=0&aq=0&oq=ian+x+#

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By: David https://zentastic.me/blog/2009/04/01/will-2012-really-be-the-end/comment-page-1/#comment-6107 David Thu, 02 Apr 2009 07:02:11 +0000 https://zentastic.me/blog/?p=6496#comment-6107 this article is written from a soft point of view, many people believe that since the magnetic poles of earth move at 15km a year right now, the magnetic storm from the sun will shift the magnetic poles from the sun and the earth, bringing also great natural disasters to earth, in whatever scenario, is amazing how much we depend on stuff to survive…

I know how to fish, and can exchange it for other stuff!!!

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By: wintermute https://zentastic.me/blog/2009/04/01/will-2012-really-be-the-end/comment-page-1/#comment-6106 wintermute Thu, 02 Apr 2009 04:08:09 +0000 https://zentastic.me/blog/?p=6496#comment-6106 if you look at mayan concepts of time, it’s cyclic. So the world does not end in 2012, the world changes… a huge change, on the order of the spanish conquest for the maya, or the collapse of the Classic Maya civilization before that. And, whatever happens in this time, it does seem that this IS a time of huge change.

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